My Experience With Portable Church Industries
There have been a couple of posts concerning Portable Church Industries lately. They even have their own blog. Over the past two years, I've talked with a number of church planters who have and have not used PCI. Just this week, I had a consultation and we are currently pouring over their recommendation. We've not made a decision on what we'll do. I thought I would share with you my thoughts and experience.
What Church Planters Should Know About PCI:
- They're not for everyone. PCI has stated this a number of times and would be the first to tell you. When it is said they're not for everyone, that could be a number of different reasons. One of which may be price. Ask them why the price though, and they'll tell you
- They are a ministry. I've talked with PCI about this at length. They're committed to the work of the kingdom and helping make churches better. I was extremely satisfied with our consultant and his broad knowledge of ministry, building codes, equipment, sound and video engineering to name just a few. Now some church planters may question what is meant by "ministry." After all, they're a for profit group and just because your committed believers doesn't make a company a ministry. However, from what I've been told, they refuse to work with non Christian ministry organizations. Throughout my time with them, they've demonstrated a genuine desire and concern to further the Gospel and equip churches to do so too.
- Their target is: quality, portability and customization (my opinion). They're not going to build cheap cases. They're not going to recommend cheap equipment. You're probably not going to find American DJ on their product list. They have your volunteers in mind. They understand volunteer burnout and they want their product to be as portable as possible. They also understand that a movie theater is different from a school and a school cafeteria is different from a gym. There's not a product in America that you'll find these three characteristics that you also won't find a price to match. Their prices match their quality, portability and customization. They don't buy in bulk. They don't keep stock.
- I've not heard one church planter whose used PCI saying they wish they hadn't. If anything, the guys I've talked with say they highly recommend PCI. However, I've also talked with guys who haven't used PCI and are doing great.
What PCI Needs To Know About Church Planters: (not implying they don't)
- Church Planters are a resourceful group. Church Planters have to know how to stretch a dime. This will be your biggest obstacle as a growing company that seeks quality. Church Planters will choose lesser quality to make the dime stretch and may worry about the quality post launch. If we can find a $1000 video projector on eBay to get us through the first 6 months, we may very well go with it. We may spend more in long run only because we don't have the upfront money to get it in the beginning. We have to balance Outreach/Evangelism with Equipment. Any church planter who spends 80% of their budget on equipment and 20% on outreach would be doing the wrong thing. PCI knows that.
- Church Planters struggle with the difference between quality equipment and quality ministry. We recognize that some guys have planted churches with very little equipment and grown rapidly and there are those who've had the best equipment in town and yet had very little impact in the community. Church Planters are some of the most tech savvy guys in ministry (I'm not one of them.) We want quality equipment but we'll sacrifice it in a heartbeat if we can reach more people. AND we also know that there are some people we may not keep if we don't have quality equipment.
- Church planters are a competitive breed. Having said that, there can easily be a sense of the "haves" and "have nots". If you use PCI, you must have a highly funded church plant. If you're not well funded then you can't even get close to PCI, which may not be true.
My recommendations that I've shared with PCI: (I'm sharing them with you only because I've shared them with my consultant.)
- PCI ought to support a mission. As a for profit group, they ought to share what they're doing for missions. Other companies like Chic-fil-a demonstrate their support. Since, I'm passionate about Church Planting, I suggested reimbursing Church Plants for the consultation if they purchase 50% of the $ on the final invoice. OR support a Church Planting organization. OR support some other mission.
- PCI ought to setup a non-profit ministry called Portable Church Consulting. In this, they not only consult on equipment but also visioneering, target demographic and strategy and outreach. They visit hundreds of churches across America. They see all sorts of ideas and strategies. They have ministry experience that could be worth sharing if they packaged it right.
- PCI ought to consider how they can offer a second product line that is lesser expensive product (a.k.a cheaper): It might be worth looking into a product that isn't as light, durable, high quality, so that guys who are still in need might be able to purchase and then post launch upgrade to higher quality if need be. You can buy the Ford or the Mercedes. Its a quality control issue.
My experience:
- The consultation was extremely helpful. Especially, for a guy like me whose not a techy. It was also an opportunity for me to be asked questions that I may not have thought of. It was also an opportunity to envision and cast vision for StonePoint.
- The consultant was extremely professional. I knew I had a guy who understood buildings. As soon as we walked in to a local restaurant, he immediately looked all around. He reminded me of myself. When I go to a new town, I immediately look for locations to start a new church and look at the people to identify the target audience. Not to mention, my consultant had served on staff in a portable church for a long time. I noticed he even pulled some demographics from Link2Lead.
- As for their recommendation. I haven't found anything that is out of place or overpriced. That's not to say it can't be found cheaper elsewhere and/or that we couldn't get by with less. PCI knows that and even during their consultation the consultant skipped stuff that we knew we wanted but wasn't practical at this point. I appreciate the integrity of what they recommended.
So the big question, would I recommend them? YES and no. You know your plant. I don't. They're not for everyone as they've said and you can't recommend something to everyone that's not for everyone.


9 Comments:
Scott, my post about Portable Church last week got hundreds of hits... and eventually got noticed in the PCI boardroom. The general manager called me and said they were doing some soul searching about their price points. He said they were going to work on the possibility of a lower-priced version ($15-20k) for they typical church planter who doesn't start off with six figures in the bank. Anyway, it was incredible that they were willing to listen and even adapt their strategy to help the typical planter.
I talked with Kendra at PCI and she gave me the name and number of a leasing company that has helped new churches. Any thoughts on the option of leasing equipment and then paying it off in 2-3 years? It would give us the option of better quality from the beginning.
I talked with Matt over the phone, but I thought I would also answer his question here.
I would NOT recommend leasing the purchase. My understanding (I may be wrong) is that the interest rate is extremely high.
Plus I don't recommend being obligated to the purchase of equipment over outreach and staffing. Usually, if there is a budget cut, then it happens in one of those two areas. That can keep you from growing.
Scott,
Our church plant took a HUGE step of faith and bought a 6-figure package from PCI. Now, a year later, there are conversations about disbanding and I'm wondering if you know if PCI, or anyone else for that matter, provides a forum for buying/selling used equipment. Obviously, we're EXTREMELY interested in finding a way to pay off what we owe a generous donor who "loaned" us about 40% of what we needed to pay of our PCI bill because if we're unable to continue, we certainly don't want to leave them hanging.
Any ideas?
Give me a call at 678 469-1282 or email me at swhitaker@stonepointchurch.com I'd like to help any way possible.
Our church plant is considering using PCI. If anyone has equipment from them that they want to sell, please email me @ shaunking@gmail.com
Wow...I have a consultation with PCI today, and we'd be interested in purchasing some used equipment, if there's the opportunity. You can email me at pastormlee@gmail.com. Thanks
There is another option. There is a company called Church on wheels that has lower priced fully equipped trailers. They have a package on their webiste that starts at $ 27k including a big trailer.
Scott,
Our church got started 9 years ago, so perhaps our perspective coming from the other end might be helpful. Here are some quick learnings:
1) Spend what you can and plan for the long haul. We're just now starting a building project and probably have 2 years+ of rental.
2) see if your rental space with allow you to do onsite storage. Our school let us build a shed near the back door and its been a huge time saver for our volunteers.
3) volunteer burnout is huge. Little things make all the difference. Do what you can to save time time time. everyone will thank you at pack up time.
4) quality is always worth it. Our equipment lives in extreme temperature changes (inside of course, but still...) We went the cheap route first of just moving dollies. 65 -75 trips to unload. crazy! Then we inherited used home made cabinets from another portable church. Also bought some home depot flatbed carts. (that got the manager excited...) Now we're down to 12-15 trips.
5) if we had a do over, we'd spend the extra coin on proper storage containers from PCI or similar company. The homemade ones do the job, but need constant repair.
best wishes to everyone!
Steve Cuss
www.discovery-church.org
www.cusswords.net
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